question about stick structures

[timberwolf]

i have to ask this becuz i see alot of stick structures that could have been mother nature made or human made that some people think the big fellow did it? how much of what we see or attibute to the stick structures are bf or mother nature?

[Smokebender]

For my money all but a very small % of stick structures are man made or the work of mother nature.

[misfitguy]

i have to ask this becuz i see alot of stick structures that could have been mother nature made or human made that some people think the big fellow did it? how much of what we see or attibute to the stick structures are bf or mother nature?

Most of them.  There could be some made by local kids or very old blinds, etc.  I remember a few years ago a poster on bigfoot forum.com wrote he had just found what he thought was a bigfoot nest.  He even included pictures.  Some other people from Georgia and Florida and Alabama I believe met him and they took more pictures and perused and discussed it for quite a bit.  Eventually they found that two local kids had made a "camp".  Little bit of embarrassment, to say the least.  Being a skeptic isn't a bad thing as long as you are willing to investigate claims no matter how bizarre they may sound.  If I was contacted by somebody and asked about stick formations they had found, I would surely go see them and interview the individual.  Many times you will get some valuable information from the interview more than by the field work.  I have never found any stick formations in the woods that I would attribute to the communication or the shelter of a large animal.  That, anyway is my experience and my opinion.

Mick

[timberwolf]

see that has been my thought aboput alot of it also that it has been mother nature or old blinds.. but i have seen on discusson boards where people say nope that a bf did it... and i couldnt understand their rationalization for it at the time...i agree about investigation of everything but to attribute everything to bigfoot seems kinda of fool hardy and assuming.. to me assume something means you make an   ass/ u/ me  or assumption is the mother of all messes . i had my class b with vocals and not sure about the other thing i posted in smokes group... but one thing i do know there are things out there that intruges (sp)? me and bf is definately one of them.. later this month i am going to where i had my encounter near where smoke actually resides along the rogue river..

[misfitguy]

It sounds like you are fast becoming a good field investigator.  You are questioning but willing to seek other opinions.  You have had an experience but don't seem to think that makes you an expert.  You are continuing to pursue bigfoot with a plan based on past observations.  I would also suggest you document with a log while in the field and please bring a good camera of you have one.  If not, save up and get one.  Sometimes the question is asked, but most seem to avoid asking it, why we don't find prints in the snow.  I bring this up because you stated that you are going out by Smokebenders later this month.  There are a few reports in Michigan of snow prints but very few.  I have concluded that they either hibernate or migrate.  You just may not find anything related to bigfoot in January or February by the Rouge River, but if you go, you will find something.  I love to winter hike.  I see things I never see in the fall. 

I'm glad to see you chose to come to this forum. 

Mick

[timberwolf]

the experience i had was during the firearm deer season and if i recall right it was towards the end of the season... i dont remember the date exactly but i do remember the feeling i had.. the hair on my neck and back raised up and i felt like i was being watched and i stopped cold and got the feeling like i had to turn around and leave .. and that is exactly what i did too, and wouldnt go up that way at all the rest of the day. but sitting here and typing this got me thinking of it and i got apprehensive just thinking about going there again.. there was on a dif site i dont remember which think it was bigfoot oregon site that had a sighting not far from where i do hunt there. i didnt make it at all this yr up that ay like i have done in the past few yrs..

[Sassafras]

Getting scared is probably a sign that there are WAY too many horror movies in this world.  What we have to understand as hunters and field researchers is that being scared is a natural reaction.  Anyone can get scared.  It could be in the privacy of our own home, walking on a sidewalk at night, or in the middle of the woods.  We just can't let to consume us.  If we do, then we might as well stay home and read about bigfooting and such from the safety of our computers.

   <--  My two cents.
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Just Me

Sass

[Bone]

I have always had trouble with the idea of most of those so called stick structures being linked to Bigfoot.  I am certain that the vast majority of them discount any chance of the few real ones being taken seriously by the vast majority.  Mick, you wrote to me one time that it is crazy for the amount of things that bigfoot is given credit and I couldn't agree more.  I also agree that unfortunately, in order to make any progress in the investigation of the possibility of an unclassified animal, that you have to sort through all of the leads, even though some may seem like a waste of time or unplausable.

Bone

[misfitguy]

Bone,

It is all about investigation.  As I share some of my experiences, you will notice none of them happened to me while I was sitting in front of my computer.They all happened while I was in the woods.  A friend of mine from Arizona has seen 9 or more by now bigfoot in his life.  I believe all of them have been from the road.  At one time in Idaho, he quit working on his doctorate so he could drive lumber trucks and that would get him out in the woods and mountains and he would be able to increase his chances of seeing a bigfoot. By the way, it worked.  I think I will post an interview of him by a magazine.  His name is Jon Larson and he is originally from Ludington, MI, but became so intrigued after his first sighting, he pretty much dedicated his life to searching for bigfoot.  Most of his experiences were in Montana and Idaho, but he has also seen them in Arizona.

That was an aside, but always the key is to get into the woods.  If you can spend a day in the woods and not wonder about something, then you are simply not observing.  I am using "you" in the metaphorical sense and not pointing at "bone" particularly.  I spent a winter in the Fort Lauderdale area as an airboat captain and Everglades guide in the winter of 2001/2002.  I took tours of 20 to 25 people out into the everglades and tried to give them an experience they hadn't had before.  Of course, they all wanted to see an alligator, but I also did a plant and bird show as well and that is the part that usually got me the tips.  I couldn't have told you the number of times that I was told that it was like watching a program on the Discovery Channel.  The point I am making is, I didn't know squat about the Everglades before I bought a couple of books and actually went out in them, but I obviously knew much more than they did.  I also had honed my skill at observation and was able to share this with my tourists.  It was really a hoot.

Mick

[Smokebender]

Cridders do things with sticks. We can all think of examples. I use sticks. Napes using sticks? I buy that.
But, when I see a big stick X in the woods that's all it is to me. It's not a sign, it's just two sticks.