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Allah or Jesus?
« on: April 16, 2008, 03:58:34 PM »
i got this in one of those "forwarded" emails from someone on my email list... I really don't know what to think about it, my first emotion was "anger and frustration" then "disbelief" and i dont mean towards muslims.  I mean towards this whole line of thinking, and passing such a story in a mass email "spam" ie:  brainwashing propaganda to undiscerning minds.

What do you think about it???


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Allah or The Lord Jesus Christ? ... By Rick Mathes


This is very interesting and more than a bit scary ... but is it scary enough to generate something besides talk? I'm afraid far too many Catholics, Protestants, and Jews will wait until it hits them upside the head on a very personal level before they will do something besides talk about it. But by then it will be too late.


The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!!


Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs.


I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.


When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked:


'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'


There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, 'Non-believers!'


I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?'< /B>


The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of 'a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'


He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'


I then stated, 'Well sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope Benedict commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Charles Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!'


The Imam was speechless


I continued, 'I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?'


You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.


Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs.


In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President! I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with our liberal justice system, liberal media and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. The most puzzling thing to me is... once Islam takes over, there will no longer be a liberal media or an ACLU, or a liberal justice system. So in effect, they are slitting their own throats by not publicizing this.


If you will, please pass this on to your e-mail contacts. At least that is one thing we can all do. Then no one can say they were not warned in time.


This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well- known leader in prison ministry.

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Re: Allah or Jesus?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008, 04:02:55 PM »
Ahh, a little "Self Investigating"  ;) turned up this:

http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/rickmathes.html

Gonna have to forward that to my grandma and tell her to stop believing the hype!

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Re: Allah or Jesus?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2008, 09:07:12 PM »

Sorry I took so long to respond to your question. 

I went to the link you suggested and it wasn't real clear so I suggest this link as well.

http://snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp

People will believe want they want to believe.  Many people will share an email like this because they really want to believe that Islam is evil and so is its followers.  They also want to believe a Christian minister.  Sadly, this man is a simple liar.  Not only did he lie when he produced the email, but in at least two other questionings, he lied and even added to it.  In the investigation of what happened, witnesses said nothing like this happened at all.  The exchanges he said he had with an Imam didn't happen between anybody.  It simply didn't happen.  Of course, the other lie was the person that was there to show a film on Islam was an inmate, not an Imam.  Simply an adherent. 

Interestingly, the Islamic religion has over a billion members and many sects,same as we find in Christianity.  There is no one that is a speaker for all of the sects in Islam as there is no one spokesperson for all the different sects in Christianity.  No Imam could speak for all of Islam.  In fact just between Shi'a and Sunni, the word Imam means two different things. 

I always suggest if you receive an email that sounds odd, it probably is.  If it claims to be filled with some sort of special knowledge, it probably isn't. 

The Islamic religion is a beautiful religion that teaches peace and harmony.  There are some fundamentalists that teach other than that, same as the Christian fundamentalists do.  Care for more?
Go to www.misfitscentral.net  Why not?

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