I heard somewhere the other day that prior to the so-called Reagan Revolution that real (civil and intellectual) conservatives like Bill Buckley and Barry Goldwater saw the neo-con fringe hijacking coming. I'm sure they did everything they could to stop it but it still came; when the voice of reason tries to yell above the din, at a certain point it stops being the voice of reason and I'm sure they were aware of that. But I mourn for the loss of the days when we had conservatives of good character and civil intellect. Maybe some day after the Republican Party cleans house we can have those days back and have a civil public discourse again.