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Interesting.  Not very clear, but interesting.  Care to share with us your feelings about the Bhagavad-gita and how it has helped you?

Mick
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This topic has been moved to Religion

The topic concerns spiritual issues and belongs on the Religion board.

http://www.misfitcityforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=1367.0
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Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

Why should you waste your time?
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all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
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in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit sex, No gambling, No drugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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Source(s):
every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( www.asitis.com {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, sex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
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Outdoor Lounge / A River Reborn in the Desert
« Last post by Sassafras on March 20, 2014, 06:47:47 PM »
When I seen this video, I thought about all the times Mick and I hear about how the washes in the deserts of Arizona fill up with water in an instant.  The river, in the video, spectacularly curls around into a waterfall with spectators and a dog watching nearby.

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The river Zin, which drains into the Dead Sea, is about 75 miles long and runs through the Negev Desert, in southern Israel. While it's referred to as a river, usually only the dry bed of the Zin can be seen. Also called the Nahal Zin, the river rarely holds any water due to the arid desert conditions.



Source:  http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/incredible-video-shows-river-returning-to-the-desert-in-israel-after-years-of-drought-150925806.html?vp=1



Enjoy!!

~Sass
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CMalik,

You asked if anybody knows what ingredients are in the soups at Olive Garden.  Olive Garden does not share their ingredients, but I went to a "copy cat" recipe site.  They do give you a good indication where the excitotoxins enter the soup dishes.  In the minestrone, all the ingredients look good except for the four cups of "vegetable stock".  Vegetable stock, except for a few manufacturers, has hydrolyzed vegetable protein and autolyzed yeast in them.  It is what makes the stock strong tasting and gives it a hardy boot.  I included the recipe so you can see for yourself.

Olive Garden Copycat Minestrone Soup {Slow Cooker}
Prep Time: 20 minutes

Cook Time: 6 hours

Yield: 6 servings

Ingredients

4 cups low-sodium vegetable stock
1 1/2 cups water
2 (14.5 oz) cans diced tomatoes
1 cup diced celery (3 stalks)
1 cup diced carrots (2 carrots)
1 cup diced yellow onion (1 small)
1 Tbsp chopped fresh parsley (or 1 tsp dried)
2 tsp dried basil
1 tsp dried oregano
1/2 tsp dried thyme
1/2 tsp dried crushed rosemary
2 bay leaves
1/2 tsp sugar
Salt and freshly ground black pepper, to taste
1 1/3 cups diced zucchini (1 small)
1 1/3 cups shell pasta
4 cloves garlic, minced
1 (15 oz) can dark red kidney beans, drained and rinsed
1 (15 oz) can white navy beans or cannellini beans, drained and rinsed
1 (14.5 oz) can Italian green beans, drained
2 cups slightly packed chopped fresh spinach
Finely shredded Romano cheese, for serving (Parmesan works too)
 
Directions

Add vegetable stock, water, tomatoes, celery, carrots, onion, parsley, basil, oregano, thyme, rosemary, bay leaves and sugar to a slow cooker. Season with salt and pepper to taste and cook on low heat 6 - 8 hours or high 3 - 4 hours.
Add in zucchini, pasta, garlic, kidney beans and white beans and cook on high heat and additional 30 - 40 minutes until pasta is tender. Stir in spinach and Italian green beans and cook several minutes until heated through. Serve warm topped with Romano cheese.
Recipe Source: Cooking Classy



Concerning the Zuppa Toscans Soup:  There are two ingredients that we would be concerned with.  The first is the Italian sausage.  Many, in fact, most Italian sausage has excitotoxins in them.  When we pizza out, we always order it without sausage for that reason.  The other item is 3 cans of chicken broth.  I can guarantee you that if the broth is in a can, it will have flavor enhancers in them because it overcomes the taste of the can that sneaks in over a period of time.  Since all restaurants use broth or stock from Sysco type food suppliers, I can again assure you they all use flavor enhancers to overcome frozen and shelf life flavors.  I posted the recipe below of a copy cat site since Olive Garden does not or will not share their ingredient information.

I called them on 3/20/2014 and asked if they used flavor enhancers in their products.  The individual that I talked to said I really needed to give them specific dishes so I asked about the minestrone and he said I would have to give them more so their "team" would have more to work with.  I said how about this question, "Does Olive Garden use hydrolyzed proteins in any of their dishes?"  He didn't believe they could answer such a vague question.  I gave him my contact information and asked if he would send me the results of his "teams" research.  I guess we are in a holding pattern because Olive Garden doesn't seem to be able to tell us, their customers, what is in their food.  Stay tuned for further development.

Zuppa Toscana Soup {Olive Garden Copycat Recipe}
Yield: 6-8 servings

Ingredients

2 tsp olive oil
1 lb Italian Sausage (casings removed if necessary)
4 oz bacon (about 5 slices), diced into 1/2 to 1-inch pieces
1 cup chopped yellow onion (about 1 small onion)
3 (14.5 oz) cans low-sodium chicken broth
2 cups water
1 1/2 lbs Russet potatoes, scrubbed and rinsed then sliced into halves, halves diced into 1/8 to 1/6-inch slices
1 1/2 tsp granulated sugar
1/2 tsp fennel seeds
1/2 tsp salt, then to taste
1/2 tsp freshly ground black pepper
2 cups half and half
1 cup lightly packed kale, chopped into bite size pieces
finely shredded Romano cheese for serving, optional
 
Directions

Heat olive oil in a large non-stick saucepan over medium-high heat. Crumble sausage into 1-inch pieces and add to saucepan. Cook sausage, stirring occasionally until cooked through. Drain sausage onto a plate or baking dish lined with paper towels leaving 1 tsp fat in pan, set sausage aside. Add diced bacon (being sure to separate pieces from each other if you stacked them when slicing) to fat in saucepan, return to heat and saute 5 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add diced onions to bacon in saucepan and saute mixture until bacon is cooked through (not crisp) and onions are tender, about 5 minutes longer.
Add chicken broth, water, sliced potatoes, sugar, fennel seeds, salt and pepper. Bring soup just to a boil then reduce heat to medium-low and stir in half and half, kale and cooked sausage. Cover saucepan and simmer 25 - 30 minutes, stirring occasionally, until potatoes are very tender. Use a spoon or ladle to remove excess fat from top of soup if desired. Serve warm topped with Romano cheese.
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I get severe migraines from MSG, but have only discovered this in the past 6 months and am still testing EXACTLY what I can and cannot eat. I see a lot of mentions of soup here and how it is clearly not safe which I too accepted to be true since I cannot eat canned soup without a reaction, but I gave it a chance anyway to see if it is a trigger for me and I did fine. No migraine at all! That doesn't mean anything for anyone else's case, but for me it was fine. I had both the Minestrone and Zuppe Toscana. Does anyone know if MSG specifically is listed as an ingredient for these two soups? I am still experimenting with all the "cousins" of MSG and found some to be safe for my migraines and others not. Because I desire to be healthy overall- I try to avoid all of them anyway, but just curious. :)

Welcome to the Forum and thank you for your post.  Everytime somebody other than Sassafras and I post, it underlines for the other readers that there is a large community of sufferers.  Surprisingly, most sufferers are in some sort of quasi denial, such as you are.  If you are showing symptoms from excitotoxins some of the time, then you are sensitive all of the time.  It gets worse, and not better.  If you can eat the soups at Olive Gardens without any symptoms, then you may have some other problems besides ESS (excitotoxin sensitivity syndrome).  We started this forum to share information that we have accumulated over the past 15 years through research and Sassafras' own sensitivity issues and to give an opportunity for other sufferers to share their experiences as well. We are not much interested in debate.  What we report is founded on experience and other published research.  We do not give medical advice, but we do give explicit advice about what an ESS sufferer will react too.  There is no need for you to experiment with the "cousins" of MSG.  They are not cousins, but simply chemicals that have been produced that has MSG in them or in the case of fake sugar, cause the same reactions as MSG.  Sadly, ESS doesn't allow you to be selective on which excitotoxins you need to avoid.  You need to avoid all of them.  All sufferers, if they want to eliminate the debilitating symptoms in their life, have to become label readers and be willing to deny themselves of favorites from the past.  When you are willing to say, "I DON'T WANT TO GET SICK EVER AGAIN FROM EXCITOTOXINS!", you will, then, start to become symptom free.

Keep up the good fight

Mick
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I get severe migraines from MSG, but have only discovered this in the past 6 months and am still testing EXACTLY what I can and cannot eat. I see a lot of mentions of soup here and how it is clearly not safe which I too accepted to be true since I cannot eat canned soup without a reaction, but I gave it a chance anyway to see if it is a trigger for me and I did fine. No migraine at all! That doesn't mean anything for anyone else's case, but for me it was fine. I had both the Minestrone and Zuppe Toscana. Does anyone know if MSG specifically is listed as an ingredient for these two soups? I am still experimenting with all the "cousins" of MSG and found some to be safe for my migraines and others not. Because I desire to be healthy overall- I try to avoid all of them anyway, but just curious. :)

Cmalik824,

First, welcome to the Forum!!   [welcome] (;D)b W==(:D)==

As an MSG sufferer, I can tell you that your reactions will only get worse as time goes on.  There is way to build up an immunity to MSG and Other Excitotoxins (MSG&OE).  I tell that because you may not react to certain items now, like the soups are Olive Garden, but as time progresses, your body will become more sensitive to these harmful ingredients.

Soups, for the most part, are not safe.  Canned soups and bouillons are always bad.  Pre-made broths from a can or box are 98% bad.  There are a couple, three on the market which seem to be okay.  Kitchen Basic (which I am familiar with), Pacific something Organic broths (I have been conversing with someone by email about this, I was hoping they would share here), and another brand which looked to be okay, but I haven't tried.

The biggest thing you have to do for yourself is Read Labels!!  I can tell you something is safe today and yet tomorrow, the ingredients might be different, rendering them not safe.

Soups from Olive Garden have always had Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein (HVP) in them.  I don't presume that will change... ever.  When an ex-boyfriend and I went to Olive Garden back in the mid-nineties, I didn't notice any reactions during the many times we were there.  But one evening, we did the All You Can Eat Soup and Salad, I I remember reacting to the soup.  Dizziness, spinning, non-responsiveness to our conversation.  These reactions subsided and I was able to eat the rest of my meal, probably because I didn't have anymore of the soup.

I didn't know I was reacting to MSG&OE at that time.  I didn't find that information out until 1999.

As a rule, when going out to eat, I never eat soup with a meat-base, like beef or chicken.  I will eat some of the clam chowders because they are my weakness, and some the cheese potato soups.

Before trying a new soup, always ask questions.  Bouillons?  Stocks?  Reason: If they use any of these, they are NOT the safe kind.  More questions are about the seasonings and spices used.

Also, any ingredient which has been Hydrolyzed, like HVP, contains at least 20% MSG.  Some manufactures add additional MSG increasing the MSG load up to 50%.

I tried to answer your questions to the best of my ability.  Mick and I just got back home, and I wanted to answer your email before anymore time elapsed.

Again, welcome to the City!!!   ::D

Warmly,
Sass
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I get severe migraines from MSG, but have only discovered this in the past 6 months and am still testing EXACTLY what I can and cannot eat. I see a lot of mentions of soup here and how it is clearly not safe which I too accepted to be true since I cannot eat canned soup without a reaction, but I gave it a chance anyway to see if it is a trigger for me and I did fine. No migraine at all! That doesn't mean anything for anyone else's case, but for me it was fine. I had both the Minestrone and Zuppe Toscana. Does anyone know if MSG specifically is listed as an ingredient for these two soups? I am still experimenting with all the "cousins" of MSG and found some to be safe for my migraines and others not. Because I desire to be healthy overall- I try to avoid all of them anyway, but just curious. :)
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It's fitting that the US Army is creating non-food, food stuffs.  After all, they are responsible for introducing MSG to the food manufacturers after World War II.  Without their demanding that food providers use MSG in foods they made for the Army in the K-rations or todays MRE's, American food producers would never been introduced to MSG, and all its forms.  Wow, that's something to think about.  If we didn't have excitotoxins in our food system, restaurants would have to have cooks and food would be prepared on site. There would be no regional food processing centers, so the abundance of chain/expressway restaurants would be narrowed only to those that could train personnel to cook and to deliver palatable food.  The medical industry would be able to concentrate on preventative measures instead of doctoring symptoms caused by MSG and other excitotoxins.  The pharmaceutical industry would have had time to do real research on medicines that can help us rather than producing symptom masking pills.

We would have to cook more at home and use less prepared foods.  The large box stores would have to cater to our needs by supplying us with fresh produce, canned goods that don't sit for years on a shelf and cereals that would actually have healthy ingredients.  The snack industry wouldn't be able to offer all sorts of flavors on their chips, crackers, etc and they could concentrate on making healthy snacks, rather than addictive tasty snacks.

So, it only seems fitting the US Army should produce a non-food, food item.  We can only hope it will soon be available in our local supermarket.

Keep up the good fight

Mick
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Feedback / How do you like it?
« Last post by Sassafras on March 15, 2014, 10:47:03 PM »
How do you like the Upgrade?


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